In this excerpt of the Bernie Sanders Show, former secretary of defense William J Perry and Sanders have a conversation about North Korea and nuclear weapons

This article is part of a new series, A Chat with Bernie Sanders. The series will run abridged transcripts of episodes from the Bernie Sanders Show. The show seeks to be a place where people can learn about the progressive agenda.

In this first article in the series, Bernie Sanders talks to former secretary of defense William J Perry, who served under the Clinton administration. The subject of their chat? North Korea.

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